SL projects update week 20 (1): server, JSON, viewer release process

Server Deployments – Week 20

As always, please refer to the release forum  thread on the weekly deployments for the latest updates and discussions.

Second Life Server (Main channel)

On Tuesday May 14th, the Main channel received the Experience Keys project which is widely regarded (and referred to by LL staff) as the “experience permissions”. This means the project is now available across the grid, although there are no visible changes to be seen at this point. Release notes.

Speculation is still running high on exactly what the new project is – and whether it is “just” the experience permissions to partner the existing advanced creation tools ot something more – as well as whether the capabilities will be available for use across the grid (i.e. on Mainland as well as private estates). Details will be forthcoming from the Lab in time; for the moment, they’re holding their cards close to their collective chest.

Release Candidate (RC) Channels – JSON Capabilities

On Wednesday May 15th, all three RC channels should receive a new server maintenance project (release notes (Bluesteel)).  The project is designed to fix two crash modes and two bugs, namely:

  • A fix for ‘Overriding “Sitting on Ground” animation while sitting on the ground makes “stand up” button disappear’ (BUG-2424)
  • A fix for ‘ApplyImpulse now works only in the root prim’ (SVC-8227)

In addition, this project introduces new LSL support creating and parsing for JSON-formatted strings. The new LSL functions comprise: 

  • list llJson2List(string json) – converts the top level of the json string to a list.
  • string llList2Json(string type, list values) 
    • Converts either a strided list of key:value pairs to a JSON_OBJECT or a list of values to a JSON_ARRAY
  • string llJsonGetValue(string json, list specifiers) – gets the value indicated by spcifiers from the json string.
  • string llJsonSetValue(string json, list specifiers, string value) – returns a new json string that is the json given with the value indicated by specifiers set to value
  • string llJsonValueType(string json, list specifiers) – returns the type constant for the value in json indicated by specifiers.

At the time of writing, the RC deployments still had a question mark over them as testing was, according to Simon Linden when speaking at the Simulator User Group, “down to the wire, although it all looks good.”

Further information on the new LSL support for JSON can be found on the LSL JSON wiki page.

The project is being lead by Kelly Linden who described the reason for implementing them as being because he’s “keen on improving the ability to interface LSL with the larger web. The previous maintenance version expanded the content-type support of http-in and http-out which ties in with this.”

It is likely that further LSL support for JSON will be added in the future.

SL Viewer

Beta Viewer and the Viewer Release Process

A further beta viewer release was made on May 11th ( – see the release notes for details – in preparation for the deployment of the new viewer release process. The beta 3.5.2 viewer incorporates changes required by the new service.

While at the Open-source Dev meeting on Monday May 13th, I asked Oz Linden on the status of the new process. “Internally, we’re essentially already using it in that all projects are based on viewer-release,” he replied. “We’re starting system test of the server-side infrastructure changes this week… once those are tested, it’s just a matter of deploying them and we can fully switch over to the new process. ‘just deploying’ on our scale is always an understatement, incidentally.”

This does not mean the release process is about to be deployed, however. The server-side infrastructure testing is liable to be on-going for a while. One aspect which the Lab will be checking carefully is the changes made to the log-in process.

When a user logs-in to Second Life using an official viewer, a check is carried out to see if a mandatory upgrade is required. To prepare for the new release process, is check has been updated. “that’s not something one deploys without having taken every step one can think of to quadruple-check just a bit,” Oz explained.

How long the tests will take to complete is unclear, but it is unlikely the new release process will be deployed in week 20.

Materials Processing

May 8th saw the The materials project viewer updated with the release of version, with the release notes available here.

Detail on the hint of a Katana created entirely using the new materials capability. The sword is made by June Dion and has an LI of 7
Detail on the hilt of a Katana created entirely using the new materials capability. The sword is made by June Dion and has an LI of 7

Work is continuing with the viewer, focusing on the UI issues which need to be resolved in order for the code to progress towards mainstream  release.

Server-side Baking / Appearance

Nyx and Troy Linden appeared on Designing Worlds on May 13th, as a part of a special programme on SSB/A and Materials Processing. During the show, they answered a number of questions about SSB/A. I have a transcript of there discussion with show hosts Saffia Widdershins and Elrik Merlin for anyone wishing to catch-up on things who may not wish to watch the entire show.

Nyx Linden (l) and Troy Linden (r) on Designing Worlds
Nyx Linden (l) and Troy Linden (r) on Designing Worlds discussing SSB/A – see my transcript (image courtesy of Wildstar Beaumont / Designing Worlds)

Discussing the overall status things at the Content Creation User Group meeting on Monday May 13th, ahead of the show airing, Nyx said the Lab is, “Still making good progress, the back-end needs a bit more work before we’re fully ready to roll out. Pushed some bug fixes to the public branch last week for the viewer.”

Commenting on the availability of test regions on the main grid using SSB/A, Nyx added, “[I] don’t have an estimate on that just yet. Roll out of server-side appearance will be a slow process, will definitely let you guys know when there is a test region up on Agni. In the meantime, please keep testing on Aditi, we have gotten some good reports on what is left to fix.”

Other Items

New Particle Capabilities

The new particle capabilities are currently stalled pending the arrival of the viewer-side rendering support. No further server-side capabilities other than those mentioned previously are being added at this time, and commenting on the situation, Simon said, “The next step is getting that viewer code out the door, and that has been making small steps in the right direction. I can’t promise any dates but I personally would like to make a bug-fix version of the viewer available, which has some changes we put in earlier this year but hasn’t been released as other things were in line.”

With the new viewer release process due to debut soon, it may well be possible that a particles project viewer could be on the horizon sooner rather than later.

Baker Linden’s Bug Stomping

Baker Linden: still working on clearing bugs prior to working on the new group ban funtionality (see )
Baker Linden: still working on clearing bugs prior to working on the new group ban funtionality (see JIRA 29337)

Baker Linden provided a further brief update on his work in stamping out bugs as he works his way towards implementing a group ban feature. As reported last time, he’s working on a trio of issues which need to be sorted in order to ensure the group ban functionality works as he expects. The first of these is to fix a problem with searching people when using the choose resident floater; the second is fix a problem with unmuting an object  / person which can see the object / person muted again after a relog; the third is the stripping-out of leading and trail spaces in display names.

“The various People API bugs have been pretty ruthless to me so far — I’m still getting used to the system we use for that,” he informed the Simulator User Group. “Unfortunately, it’s been slow-going as I try to understand the flow of the agent updating system, and I’m trying to fix a couple of bugs there before I start adding a new package to that system. I haven’t really solidified my plan on how to fix searching, but I do know that it’s currently inconsistent across various search paths, and I plan on making it consistent.”

Object Packer

The Simulator User Group saw discussion about the potential usefulness in a “scripted object packer”, an idea  Levio Serenity described as, “A feature that’s like the opposite of llRezObject() that would let a script grab an item/copy of it that’s rezzed out and add it into the contents of the item where the script is running.”

The best way of hinging about this is to imagine a system like Builder’s Buddy or Rez-faux, where a script placed in an object would be able to “slurp up” the required items (presumably also identified by scripts of their own), and place them inside the contents of the prim containing the “master” script.

Such a capability would then make it a lot easier to pack-up builds, etc., rather than having to manually place items into a container each time – even with No Copy items. Responding to the idea, Simon Linden commented, “Hmmm, interesting … thinking from the other side of it, I’ve always wanted a few magic buttons to pack up my parcel so I could switch builds easily.”

Currently, this is just an idea, but a feature request might be in the offing in the future.

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8 thoughts on “SL projects update week 20 (1): server, JSON, viewer release process

    1. Thanks, Tiger!

      As you say, most won’t be able to see it, but it’s handy to have the JIRA number for future reference


  1. Do you think Linden viewers will ever get the FLYCAM Indicator back for SpaceNavigators that was in their V1 viewers but not in their later viewers.
    All TPV I have used retain the FlyCam indicator so I’m surprised about Lindens lack of it.
    Please do not suggest raising a Bug report/Jira done that several times to have then dismissed.


  2. So far only noticed that cross sims on mainland seems better, at least on corsica region i only had a cross sim that took more then 2sec and did not have any camera screwed!
    But as many reported that regions work good till 5 hours after restarts, and there was only 23.345 users in World at the time I can’t assure that there is an improvement and i didnt try to fly only ride a bike and a car!


    1. Flying might be easier: no collisions to resolve and scenery further away at lower detail. But higher speed will work the other way.

      I know some vehicles with huge scripts. I wonder if there is a way that the complicated change-settings stuff could be done by another object–call it the toolbox–which changes a config file in the vehicle. Maybe not. Horrible things might happen.


  3. Yay for the JSON parsing commands! 🙂 Finally we’ll be able to use JSON for our webservices, instead of using the much-more-unreadable CSV (or CSV equivalent), which is what most of us have to use, as parsing JSON in LSL manually takes waaaay too many CPU cycles…


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