September LL Zoom call: an update on Second Life

On Thursday, September 25th, 2025 Linden Lab held a further Zoom Call with bloggers and content creators to and update on SL and respond to questions.

The following is summary of the meeting; however, as my aide mémoire audio recording of the meeting refused to play back in full post-meeting, some of the Q&A elements of meeting are absent.

Table of Contents

Note that the order of topics does not necessarily reflect the order in which they were discussed.

New Option for Premium Plus Subscriptions

  • Due to be launched in October 2025, “Premium Plus, no Stipend” is a new option being added to Premium Plus to reduce the annual cost of this subscription level whilst retaining all of the “physical” benefits.
  • This option removes the Stipend and sign-up bonus from Premium Plus, reducing the annual cost by US $105.12 (+ any applicable taxes).
  • For full details, please see: Coming Soon: new option to reduce the cost of SL Premium Plus subscriptions.

Support Update

  • Backlog of tickets for support & trust and safety now down to “normal” levels.
  • Processes for helping users / responding to issues have been streamlined, and further staff have been recruited into the support and trust and safety teams.
  • The focus now is now maintaining the faster turn-around and keeping users satisfied with responses.
  • Support may be expanded in certain areas in the future – this is currently TBA.
The support ticket backlog as of September 2025

SL Viewer Summary

  • A note on the faster release cadence and the highlighting of new features – such as Inventory Favourites with the 2025.07 viewer release.
  • A note that the next release (2025.08) is focused on native Apple Silicon support, which should see a good performance boost for Mac users on that OS, particularly those on newer hardware.
  • Viewer notes and features are covered in my SL Viewer Summaries, Content Creation UG meeting summaries and Open Source Development UG notes (formerly the TPVD developer meeting).

SL Mobile, Project Zero and the New User Experience

Mobile and Zero: Incoming Users

  • The Lab estimates it is now able to get around 10x the people to try SL on mobile / Zero than had previously been the case.
  • This is allowing LL to try small, fast experiments with new users to help them get them started, such as with the on-going current focus on helping new users to dress / customise their avatar.
  • One of these is a new “helper” island where new users can go to for help (e.g. in dressing / customising their avatars, and Project Zero (viewer-in-a-browser). Zero is already geared for this.
  • The aim is to fully on-board new users ASAP to get them engaged.

Retention and Experiments

  • Despite the rise in initial engagement with new users trying SL via Mobile and Project Zero, overall retention of those users is still proving hard – the current figure is only around 7% of those coming into SL are actively being retained.
  • Some of the experiments mentioned in the meeting have involved dropping new users into established locations and hubs, rather than welcome hubs.
  • It was noted by meeting attendees that some of these experiments have not always gone well.
    • One cited example was the use of Ahern, which has become a hang-out for established users, many of whom have been witnessed as harassing and being abusive towards incoming new users.
    • Part of the problem here is that mentors were not aware of these switches / experiments, and so could not attend to provide support.
    • The use of Ahern in particular has now ceased as a result of this feedback.
    • It was further noted that LL are planning to involve mentors in future experiments.
  • The observation was made that established users who are already invested in the platform (as those at Ahern causing trouble appeared to be) and who spend time denigrating / insulting / trolling new users to the point of driving them away is somewhat self-defeating, in that it potentially damages SL’s ability to grow / remain viable as a product through the acquisition of new, engaged users.

User / Community Involvement

  • The question was asked if LL could offer incentives to those users (e.g. club owners) and communities able to demonstrate a track record of being able to attract new users and convert them into retained users.
  • It was pointed out that there is the Second Life Creator Partnership Programme, which includes the potential for incentives to communities, etc, and which includes things like Community Gateways.
  • Brad Oberwager offered a challenge – those who can develop and demonstrate a means of converting new users to retained users through their own means should contact the Lab to discuss ideas and possible incentives.

An Update from Linden Lab

On Thursday, July 24th, Linden Lab held a Zoom Call with bloggers and content creators to provide a series of updates and take questions on a number of initiatives, changes and issues that have been the subject of recent discussion through forums such as the Zoom Calls, and recent announcements made through the likes of the Meet the Lindens sessions at the SL22B. Table of Contents

The following is an attempt to summarise the discussion and questions raised. Note that the order of topics does not necessarily reflect the order in which they were discussed..

Support: Status and Ticket Backlog

  • Most support issues have a 72-hour (3 business days) SLA for turnaround, with some priority items having a 12-hour or 24-hour (1 business day) turnaround SLA.
  • This includes carrying a “balance” forward of around 1000-1500 tickets
  • There has been a significant backlog of tickets due to things like the support reorganisation in late 2024, but the number of outstanding tickets is being brought down, per the graph below.
Graph supplied by Patch Linden showing the declining in the size of the support ticket backlog
  • In addition, and as Patch indicated at SL22B, weekend support hours have returned, so there is now 7-day a week support from 06:30 through 15:30 SLT.
  • In addition, new in-world support and Discord support options are in development and should be announced soon.

Tilia/Thunes and Pay-outs

  • Recap of the reason for the sale (completed in June, see: LL completes Tilia sale to Thunes: What you need to know). In short, Tilia as a Fintech operation was taking up too much time for LL to effectively manage and build.
  • As anticipated, there were some issues with pay-outs for some immediately following the completion of the sale; however, the majority of these should now be sorted out.
  • Whether the sale will potentially increase / decrease the time taken to complete pay-outs depends on a number of factors:
    • When LL moved to offering real-time pay-outs, Second Life became the target for attempts at fraud by outside forces, and the Lab wasn’t quick enough to catch all cases.
    • Ergo, before moving back towards real-time pay-out, the Lab is now focused on the issue of account security at their end of things.
    • Additionally, LL is looking to Thunes to be able to offer more pay-out options to SL creators, some of which might also reduce the times taken to receive money.
    • However, time frames for introducing the latter are a matter for Thunes, not LL.

Linden Dollar Exchange Rate and the Economy

Concerns have be raised about the recent increases in the Linden Dollar exchange rate (roughly a 5% increase thus far over the course of 2025), with questions on whether the Lab will intervene / cap the increase, and whether the increases were due to user behaviour or system tweaks.

  • The LindeX operates entirely independently of Linden Lab on an open order book basis: anyone can participate in placing buy / sell orders, with matching engine determining which orders can be fully or partially filled. There is no direct intervention by the Lab.
  • One of the negatives of the open order book mechanism is that it is subject to the laws of supply and demand: if the supply of Linden Dollars exceeds the demand for them, the LindeX is going to move.
  • LindeX volumes, 2005-2025

    Whilst the 5% increase thus far over the course of 2025 is concerning:

    • It is perhaps not excessive when seen in terms of the economic disruption going on in the world at large.
    • Across 20 years of history, the LindeX has actually been remarkably stable (see: LindeX Exchange: Market Data and click on the All option beneath the graphs at the top of the page), particularly when compared to more recent crypto-currencies – or even when compared to natural inflation in the real world.
    • In this latter respect, SL might be seen as a city which, for 20 years, has seen almost zero inflation.
  • Quantitatively, the LindeX should have been moving at a rate of around 2% a year, forcing creators to periodically adjust their prices. Had this happened, it would have become the norm, and no-one would have been alarmed at the current increases.
  • That this hasn’t happened is largely down to market sinks – actions that cause Linden Dollars to “disappear” from the LindeX.
    • This tends to happen when the Lab accepts L$ as a payment for something that does not have a real-world cost associated with it (so the Lab does not make money on the L$, nor does it lose money in providing the service for which the L$ payment is made). When this happens, it can cause the supply of Linden Dollars to be reduced, boosting demand.
  • In the years prior to the COVID pandemic (i.e. 2017-2020), the number of sinks had been decreasing, causing the LindeX to rise. However, during the pandemic, demand for L$ rose exponentially, reversing the trend completely. Since COVID the trend has reversed once more, with supply again outstripping demand and leading to the current volatility.

What Can Done?

  • The Lab could directly intervene and change how the LindeX operates, either by becoming a market maker, or pegging the market rate for L$.
    • Neither option is seen as optimal for various reasons (e.g. the perception that LL is now manipulating the market to their benefit; the potential for increased fees to be charged, etc.).
    • However, the market maker is an option the Lab could possibly experiment with alongside the open order book in the future.
  • Currently, two potential actions are in development at the Lab. These are focused on the supply side of things with the aim of alleviating some of the current upward trend. Neither option was specified in the meeting, but one is liable to be launched in the near future, while the other is more medium-term.
  • Longer-term, the solution is seen as redressing the supply and demand balance in favour of the latter. There are two primary ways of doing this:
    • Find the means to introduce more sinks into the market, so that L$ can be “taken out of circulation”.
    • Stimulating demand for L$ – most particularly through bringing more active users in to SL so they engage in the economy (see below for more on this), and through short-term promotions such as the April 2025 50-hour reduction in L$ buy fees.
  • In terms of providing more sinks for L$, the Lab is open to suggestions from the user community at large on how this might be achieved – however, a sink only works if it involves no base cost to Linden Lab. For example:
    • While paying for a subscription (Plus, Premium, Premium Plus) using L$ might some like a sink, subscriptions have a base cost for LL, which is covered by the revenue LL obtains through the fiat money subscription fee. So if L$ are used instead, that revenue is removed and in order to recover it, LL must sell the L$ back into the market, keeping them in circulation and eliminating the sink.
    • The above is also true to ideas such as allowing region holders to pay for multiple regions using L$.

Platform Growth Initiatives

This was both an update on the impact of Project Zero (the viewer in a browser) and SL Mobile in bringing-in new users – and how established users can help with this.

  • Both Project Zero (viewer in a browser) and SL Mobile, together with new on-boarding initiatives and advertising has seen a month-on-month grow in the number of people trying SL over the last three months.
  • This has resulted in a tenfold increase in the number of people trying out Second Life than has historically been the case.
  • However, this is only translating to around a twofold increase in the number of retained users (those logging-in to SL repeatedly over a 30-day period) – or approximately 1 in every 100 who try SL for the first time.
  • While the Lab is trying to improve on this by directing incoming new users to meaningful locations, they are seeking help from users and creators.
  • If creators (e.g. content creators, region holders, etc) / communities can create in-world locations specifically to engage with and encourage new users to become more involved in Second Life, LL is willing to work with those creators / communities to drive incoming traffic to those locations.
  • Those interested in partnering in this way should apply to join the Creator Partnership Programme.
  • As a part of this, LL will also work closely with the creators on these new user experiences / flows to help understand what is working and what is not, where new users might be getting frustrated (and possibly leaving), how to address this, provide relevant stats on all of this, etc. The overall aim being to help iterate and build experiences and processes that result in more new users becoming more fully engaged in SL.
  • For the Lab, the focus is on trying help new users get to grips with the basics – how to dress and customise their avatars – rather than the more esoteric aspects of SL (e.g. managing land and / or Groups).
  • There are some general things existing users can do to help new users.
    • This could be as simple as engaging with them in conversation, to the likes of clubs and stores not blocking access to accounts under a certain number of days (30, 60, whatever).
    • Yes, the latter may mean having to deal with trolls / idiots, on throwaway accounts – but there are tools to help with this, and making new users feel more welcome as they hop around SL trying to find places they might enjoy (and spend L$) than making them feel utterly unwelcome.

Copyright and IP Infringements

A number of meetings with content creators earlier in 2025 raised the issues of copyright / IP infringement, content ripping, and similar (some based around the appearance of a viewer that had a focus on content ripping).

  • In response to the concerns, LL has been pro-active in trying to address the “top” problems with content theft, with those doing so receiving “more than nasty letters”, and as a result departing Second Life.
  • This was supported by the opening of a special support channel to respond directly to matters of content theft.
  • As a broad indicator of the change, the number of reports of content theft (not DCMA filings, which tend to remain constant) has fallen from around 300 per year to just 27 since the new measures were introduced earlier in 2025.
  • Content creators at the meeting largely agreed with the Lab’s point of view, confirming that some of the more notorious content thieves have not gone from SL, and the aforementioned content ripping viewer appears to now be blocked.
  • It is acknowledged that this likely does not eliminate all content ripping completely from SL, but should be taken as indicative that LL and their legal team are not prepared to be complacent on the matter.

Firestorm on the Official Viewer download page: tipping the balance?

via Linden Lab

I’ve been a user of the Firestorm third-party viewer (TPV) since its inception (and was a user of its precursor, Phoenix). It’s a viewer which offers a comprehensive set of capabilities – those also available in the Official Viewer; those otherwise tucked away in the debug settings and brought to light through the building of UI elements; and those developed by members of the Firestorm team and those contributing to it down the years.

True, it may not run well on all systems – indeed, it may not run as well as other viewers on the same computer; but it offers such a range of capabilities that it is practical for anything a person might want to turn their hand to in SL, from simply pootling around and having fun, to photography, building, scripting, and content creation. Hence why it has become the most widely used TPV in Second life (and, quite likely, Open Simulator worlds).

Given the large percentage of users engaged with SL through Firestorm can clearly present LL with some major headaches, particularly when it comes to matters of support and the deployment and adoption of new capabilities within Second Life. For example, in the six months or so prior to this article one of the main hold-ups in allowing LL to completely switch Second Life over to the WebRTC Voice service and finally turn-off the outdated, troublesome (and potentially costly?) Vivox service, has been the fact that many Firestorm users still use versions of the viewer without the necessary WebRTC support (although that number has been declining).

As it does have such a large percentage of the the total SL user base means it cannot simply be ignored by LL on any level. In this, I do applaud recent moves on the part of the Lab to allow staff to become more au fait with Firestorm and its capabilities, and in publicly recognising the sheer weight of user numbers Firestorm has. Not only does this potentially assist in terms of support issues, it allows Lab personnel more readily understand where people like content creators are coming from when discussing options and capabilities that may have been exposed within Firestorm but may not be so readily apparent in the Official Viewer.

However, what I don’t think is particularly fair is the for Lab to promote Firestorm to the exclusion of all other TPVs. At the June Web User Group it was stated that Firestorm would be added to the Official Viewer download page, and this was due shortly thereafter.

The updated official viewer download page with Firestorm

What I find unfair in this move is not the inclusion of Firestorm on the Official Viewer download page per se. As noted, there are good reasons for LL to acknowledge it. Rather it is in the fact that in doing so, all other TPVs are completely ignored to the point where they might as well not exist. Even the one link referencing third-party viewers goes to the Firestorm Viewer download page, not the Third Party Viewer Directory. There’s not even a statement as to what a TPV actually is.

Worse, the appearance of Firestorm alone on the Official Viewer download page can so easily be interpreted as meaning Firestorm is now “officially endorsed” by Linden Lab as “the” alternate viewer for accessing Second Life; or for those relatively new to SL, that Firestorm is the only TPV on offer.

As such, I cannot help but find this move to be demeaning towards the developers of other third-party viewers. Yes, they may well have a smaller overall percentage of users when compared to Firestorm, but this doesn’t invalidate them. What’s more – and as I’m sure the Firestorm developers will agree – many of the people behind those other viewers have contributed to the success of Firestorm and the Official Viewer through code contributions (direct and indirect).  Thus, to ignore them entirely is to do them a disservice, however unintended.

The point here is that all of the above could have been easily addressed from the outset by including a section on the Official Viewer download page below the one for Firestorm, outlining what third-party viewers are, and which provides links to the TPV Directory and the TPV Policy. Nor does such a statement have to be complicated. For example:

Third-party viewers are developed by users of Second Life. They are based on the core code from the official viewer but offer additional options and capabilities to users. Third-party viewers (including Firestorm) are not endorsed or supported by Linden Lab. However, those recorded on our Third Party Directory have been self-certified for their compliance with our Third Party Viewer Policy to provide a positive and predictable experience for all Second Life Residents.

Such an inclusion would only be fair an appropriate – as I hope that if anyone from the Lab who might read this piece would agree. All TPV developers put in considerable amounts of their own time and effort into developing viewers to offer users a broader choice in the software they might opt to use. As noted, numbers of active users employing them might pale in comparison to Firestorm, but this does not make them any less deserving of a similar degree of recognition by LL.

Linden Lab adds CMO + CISO roles “to support rapid growth”

Courtesy of Linden Lab

On Monday, May 2nd, 2022, Linden Lab announced it has added two new leadership roles: those of Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) and Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) – the first time that either role has been embodied within the company.

Interestingly, the news came not from the Lab (at the time of writing, the press release had yet to be officially posted) but via prnewswire.com. Both roles will embrace Second Life and Tilia, the Lab’s virtual economy payment processing platform.

Both roles will span across Linden’s full portfolio of businesses to support growth driven by the rapidly expanding consumer interest in metaverses and the technology platforms necessary to support them as well as other virtual worlds and marketplaces.

– Linden Research Inc.

Steven Feuling – Linden Lab’s new CMO

Taking on the role of CMO is Steven Feuling, a 30-year marketing veteran and former CEO. He has worked with and for some of the world’s best known brands including Microsoft, Bloomberg LLC, The Walt Disney Company, 20th Century Fox, E*Trade and General Motors, as well as several successful start-ups.

Having held senior roles with clients, agencies and media partners, most recently as President of MDC Partners’ Assembly, he offers a unique perspective to support both Second Life and Tilia. In his role as CMO, Feuling will oversee all marketing and communications efforts across the Lab’s portfolio.

Peter Capraro, joining the Lab as the new CISO, has spent nearly half of his career focused on financial services cybersecurity. Most recently, he was the deputy CISO at fintech start-up, Akoya, a spin-off from Fidelity Investments, and held security roles at Bank of America for 10 years.

Capraro’s wealth of experience within the cyber security space is seen as “instrumental” to the Lab’s information security and compliance initiatives, which span both Tilia and Second Life. In his role as CISO, he will serve as the strategic leader responsible for maintaining a corporate-wide information security programme to protect information assets, and ensure security for the company and it users.

Steven and Peter are filling critical roles for Linden Lab, as the virtual world landscape takes front stage again. Each of their respective expertise at both successful start-ups and world-renowned companies will have a tremendous impact on our leadership teams for both Second Life and Tilia.

– Brad Oberwager, Executive Chairman of Linden Research Inc

With thanks to Cube Republic for the link.

Looking at the (award-winning) Second Life video ad

A still from Children of Creation, Linden Lab / Leverage Media

During the Lab Gab special on Monday, June 21st, that featured board member and Executive Chair Brad Oberwager (Oberwolf Linden) and the SL leadership team of Grumpity, Patch and Brett Linden, a “commercial break” was taken to show – I believe for the first time – a complete advertising cut of the video filmed for Second life as a collaborative project between Linden Lab and  Levitate Media.

I’ve extracted the video via timestamps and embedded it at the end of this article so it can be seen without the interviews that come on either side of it, and during the show, Brett linden revealed more about it:

  • The overall project for the video has the internal title at the Lab of The Children of Creation.
  • The version shown (and embedded below) is one of several cuts of the recorded film, and is specifically geared towards teasing out the ideas of freedom of expression and imagination taking flight, hence the emphasis on flying.
  • Other cuts of the video (I believe from Brett’s comments) emphasise Second life in other ways, some offering a “considerable amount” of Second Life footage, and a “directors cut” that does not really show the virtual world, but acts as a teaser.
  • The ad (as seen here) was entered into the 2021 Telly Awards for artistic achievement in video advertising, where it received the following adjudicated awards:
    • Gold Telly winner – Online Commercials Craft-Visual Effects.
    • Gold Telly winner – People’s Telly General-Online Commercials.
    • Silver Telly winner – Online Commercials Craft-Music/Jingle.
    • Silver telly winner – Online Commercials Craft-Directing.
  • The video is regarded as a “concept  ad” and has not as yet been widely deployed as a part of any advertising or other campaign. However, there are plans to discretely test some of the edits (including the “director’s cut”).

You can list to Brett’s comment on the ad below:

Personal Viewpoint

From a purely personal perspective, I think the advert as shown works pretty well; the images are well-matched to the narration, and the overall impact is the idea of liberation and freedom of expression. The intercuts of changing avatar appearances particularly underscores this, as do more subtle elements (take the still used as the banner image for this article, for example – the person / avatar flying away from the bright “Hive” sign, alluding to escaping humdrum, unified thinking and moving to new horizons). There is also a good sense of mystery to the ad that present the encouragement to go find out more about what it means

However, I have to caveat this by saying the phrase “if you’re travelling beyond this life” perhaps doesn’t sit as well as it might, given that terms like “beyond this life” are often using in reference to people passing on. This and other phrasing in the video might push uninitiated ears towards thinking the add is about some kind of cult or similar, rather than promoting a digital world; perhaps “beyond this world” might have been a better choice of words.

I’d be curious to learn how well the ad (and variations thereof) sit with assorted audiences, and maybe we’ll find out in time. For now, however, here’s the ad as shown during Lab Gab.

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Linden Lab launches the Official Second Life Merchandise store

via Linden Lab / RedBubble

Some might say it’s a long time overdue, but on Friday, September 25th, Linden Lab announced the launch of the official Second Life Merchandise Store offering a range of physical world merchandise related to Second Life and Linden Lab.

The on-line store is hosted by RedBubble, and currently comprises a range of SL and Lab branded clothing items and accessories utilising both the “new” and “old” logos, with the promise that more items t come soon, including seasonal and limited time items.

The Second Life store on RedBubble

As with most virtual market stores, the RedBubble Second Life Merchandise Store feature a list of categories down the left side of the page (note: these are a part of the site design, and not all of them may apply specifically to Second Life / Linden Lab). The main part of the site is then devoted to displaying the displaying the essentials on available merchandise, with filter options, and the ability to use at the designs offered with applicable products, rather than the product itself. Obviously, clicking on an individual item will open a page devoted to it, where things like size, etc., can be selected.

A nice aspect of the site is that it appears to automatically recognise your country of origin and presents prices in your local currency. Payments can be made via Credit / Debit card or using PayPal, whilst shipping options are available for “regular” or “faster” delivery. Joining RedBubble allows for faster checkout: your own personal page, a complete order history and tracking option, and the ability to follow favourite merchants on the site (such as Second Life / Linden Lab) and receive notification of new items as they are added to the store.

RedBubble automatically recognises your country of origin (unless using something like a VPN, perhaps), immediately presenting the price of items in your local currency, as seen here, in my view of some of the SL merchandise

I’m not entirely sure why the site features a couple of skydivers snogging as its banner image – perhaps this will change according to some site criteria, but it did strike me as something not really immediately representative of either Second Life or Linden Lab – not that either is particularly easier to pigeon-hole in a single image for those unfamiliar with either.

That very minor niggle aside, the store would appear to be a good move – hopefully we’ll see merchandise such as mugs (Lab Gab mugs have oft been requested), coasters, key fobs and other handy items, as well and more clothing items appearing in due course. Actual Linden Bears would be fun as well, if perhaps harder to produce in  a cost-effective manner.

In the meantime,those interested / curious can hop over the the official store and have a mooch.