Tag: LSL Updates

SL projects update week 34 (2): Server, viewer, group ban list, HTTP

Posted on by Inara Pey

Note: with the exception of the server deployment review, the majority of this update has been taken from the TPV Developer meeting held on Friday 21st August. A video of the meeting, recorded by panterapolnocy, is available at the end of this article

Server Deployments Week 34

As always, please refer to the week’s forum deployment thread for news, updates and feedback.

  • On Tuesday August 20th the Main channel had Server-side Appearance (SSA) enabled, as per this blog post from the Lab.
  • On Wednesday 21st August, the Magnum RC received a new maintenance package with “under the hood” changes which should be invisible to residents, while BlueSteel and LeTigre received an update to the package deployed to BlueSteel in week 33. This includes a fix for the “grey box” attachment issue which affected multiple avatars riding an object over BlueSteel region crossings. Additionally, these channels also saw SSA enabled, meaning the entire main grid is now running SSA.

SSA Update

For information on the Server-side Appearance deployment, please see my separate report.

SL Viewer Updates

A new release candidate debuted on August 20th with the name “CHUIStorm” (3.6.4.280048). This is a merging of the CHUI and Snowstorm RC viewers with the latest de facto release code base. The reason for merging the two RCs is because the Lab felt there were “too many RCs in flight”, making it difficult to determine which one should be promoted to the release viewer if several appeared ready simultaneously. In future, the Lab hopes to keep the total number of RCs in the channel to around two or three.

Interestingly, the Google Breakpad RC has vanished from the list of RC viewers in the Release channel.

The Materials project viewer was promoted to the Release channel on August 21st (RC 3.6.4.280083), leaving the current total number of RC viewers in the channel at three (CHUIStorm, Cocoa (Mac) and Materials).

Next in the Pipeline

While the order in which they appear or the overall time frame for their release is not clear, there are a number of project viewers which will be appearing in the near future. These include:

  • A further Snowstorm project viewer (third-party developer contributions) – currently with LL’s QA team
  • A new Interest List project viewer (which has had trouble passing QA – see below)
  • A further SSA project viewer – for details see my SSA Update
  • A Group Bans project viewer (see below)
  • An HTTP project viewer (see the HTTP update below)

In addition, Oz Linden hinted that he may have a surprise announcement at the next TPV Developer meeting in two weeks. While he said absolutely nothing further on the subject, the resultant speculation was that he might have been referring to the arrival of an Experience Tools project viewer. Linden Lab accidentally exposed such a viewer a few weeks ago, but quickly moved it back to a private status, so there is an awareness that a viewer is in development. Whether the speculation is right or wrong will be revealed in the fullness of time!

Interest List Update

As noted above, the viewer-side updates to the Interest list project continue to evade a project viewer release, but are expected to appear “soon”. While the code does not contain any mandatory changes TPVs must adopt, there are obviously optimisations within the code which will be beneficial for TPVs to pick-up once the repository is public.

Group Ban List

Baker Linden continues to make good progress with the group ban list project. He is currently working on what he sees as the last major part of the initial work: getting the viewer connected to the server. After that, he reports he has “a lot of security checks, and some minor additions”. There’s still no date for a project viewer, but it would appear that it is not that far from reaching a status of “real soon now”.

HTTP Update

Monty Linden is continuing to work on his HTTP updates, although he has most recently been trying to get the ” bureaucratic details” sorted and getting a QA pass on both the server-side and the viewer side work. He’s also trying to get a DNS fix in as well, which he describes as the “great DNS look-up failures problem” which the Lab has had for a number of years. He thinks he has a fix for the issue, but he’s not 100% certain.

Monty's HTTP work is now focusing on mesh connections
Monty’s HTTP work is now focusing on mesh connections

In terms of the HTTP work, Monty is trying to get a project viewer lined-up, and describes the major feature within it as being the reduction of the number of connections used by mesh so that it will be possible to start using keepalives  with mesh as well.

As I’ve previously reported, Monty has already reduced the number of mesh connections from 32 to 8. Going forward, eight will be the new default (rather than 32), with the aim being to cap the total number of mesh connections used by the viewer, with adaptive throttling and two different re-try schemes. The hope is that this will further improve network utilisation by creating more effective viewer / server connections; it should also help less capable routers.

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SL projects update week 24 (4): server release update

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Server Deploys for Week 24

As always, please refer to the week’s forum deployment thread for news, updates and feedback.

Second Life Server (Main) Channel

On Tuesday June 11th, the SLS channel received getting the server maintenance project that was on BlueSteel and LeTigre in week 23, and which is intended to fix a simulator crash mode, and a disconnection issue whereby multiple avatars would be disconnected from a simulator simultaneously, giving the impression the region had crashed when it had in fact not done so, and which also impacted LSL HTTP-in URLs.

Based on data since the deployment, it appears the disconnection issue has been addressed, although there was a report that problems of LSL HTTP-in URLs being dropped, Commenting on this issues at the Server Beta meeting on Thursday 13th June, Maestro Linden said, “I managed to confirm that it was a separate problem [to the avatar disconnection problem] Kelly has looked into it, and we think we’ll have a fix for that soon.”

Kelly Linden added, “I’ve been working on some http-in bugs for the last couple of days. I have some fixes but I can’t guarantee they will be 100% effective. There is more Rube Goldberg in that system than I’d like.”

Magnum Release Candidate Channel

On Wednesday June 12th Magnum received an update to the current interest list changes running on that channel, which addresses two bugs introduced by the project. The bug fixes were for the problem of the text of large scripts failing to display in the script editor for people on lower bandwidth connections,  and a fix for the simulator spamming the viewer with AvatarAppearance messages when avatars were in view and were moving around, also resulting in bandwidth issues.

There have also been reports of an “invisible avatar” problem occurring on Magnum regions since the week 22 deployments. which take the form of avatars in the local vicinity de-rezzing following an in-region teleport, and will only re-appear following a relog. The issue was reported as still be present in week 23, and again following this week’s deployment. So far, the Lab has been unable to reproduce in-house, so investigations are proving difficult. As BlueSteel and LeTigre are now also on the same release (see below) the Lab will be watching to see if there are additional reports of this issue.

BlueSteel and LeTigre Release Candidate Channels

Maestro Linden likes to work-out during meetings
Maestro Linden likes to work-out during meetings

On Wednesday June 12th BlueSteel and LeTigre initially received a new server maintenance project to fix a number of crash modes, addresses an issue with neighbouring region visibility, and which added new adds new LSL pathfinding capabilities and object return capabilities.

However, soon after deployment, an issue was found on BlueSteel / LeTigre regions – Bug 2850 (Cannot rez objects in Bluesteel and LeTigre parcels which disallow object entry), which resulted in a rollback which saw BlueSteel and LeTigre updated with the Magnum release package.

“it turned out that if a parcel allowed build but disallowed object entry for your avatar, then your avatar would not be able to rez from agent inventory into the parcel,” Maestro explained at the Server Beta meeting on Thursday June 13th, “And your scripted objects (like the pop-gun) would also be unable to rez. Also, Lucia [Nightfire] reported a tangential issue, which was that rezzing in some group-owned parcels required your avatar to have the parcel’s group active, which is not usually a requirement. These bugs were bad enough that … we rolled BS and LT to the same version as Magnum.”

Fixes are underway for this issue, but it is currently not known if they will be ready for next week’s deployments.

Object Return Capabilities Update

Prior to the rollback on BlueSteel and LeTigre, an issue was noted with the llReturnObjectsByID function, resulting in the function being disabled server-side. “It should be (probably) re-enabled with the next release of that code,” Kelly Linden noted. “However it will have a new limitation – it will no longer be able to return objects owned by the parcel owner.”

“We were concerned about a potential griefing vector if a parcel owner absent-mindedly grants the permission,” Maestro added.

I’ve updated my overview of the new capabilities to reflect this change.

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SL projects update 24 (3): New object return LSL capabilities

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Update June 12th, 22:40 BST/14:40 SLT: The BlueSteel  / LeTigre deployment which includes these capabilities has been rolled back due to an issue whereby objects cannot be rezzed in BlueSteel / LeTigre parcels which disallow object entry (even if Create Objects is enabled) – BUG-2850. Both regions are now running the week 24 Magnum deployment.

In week 23, Kelly Linden announced new LSL capabilities for the scripted return of objects within a region / parcel.  In making the announcement, he indicated the capabilities would be available “some time in the future”, a comment which appears to have been a little overly cautious, as the new functionality received its first outing on the Main channel in the RC deployments to BlueSteel and Le Tigre on Wednesday June 12th.

The new object return functions are llReturnObjectsByOwner and llReturnObjectsByID, and are designed to be used to enable the automated return of specified linksets to their owners.

The object containing scripts using the functions can either be placed in the land, or worn as an attachment but will only work on land held by the object owner.

The primary aim of these functions is to make for easier clearing of private sandboxes and rental parcels in cases where previous users / tenants may have left objects behind on leaving (thus removing the onus on the land owner to locate and manually return items).  They are not intended as anti-griefing tools, nor are they a “replacement” for the parcel / region auto-return functions.

The Functions

The functions are defined within the BlueSteel and LeTigre release notes as follows:

Additional Notes and Q&A On Capabilities / Limitations

There are also some additional notes which go with the new functions:

  • There are no cases where one of these new LSL calls would return an object that you could not manually return yourself
  • The functions will only work on objects in the same region/parcel as the object containing the script using them. Objects which are returned are coalesced in the recipient’s inventory, rather than being returned as individual objects
  • The functions work if and only if the user would have permission to return the object via the viewer, and it does not handle encroachment
  • To prevent severely damaging accidents the mass returns by owner (llReturnObjectsByOwner) will not work for your own items, items owned by an estate owner or manager or items that are owned by the group the land is ‘set’ to
  • llReturnObjectsByID will not return objects owned by the parcel owner
  • In order to work on group-owned land the object containing the script using the functions must be deeded to the group by the group owner
  • The return capabilities are throttled to a maximum hourly quota based on a parcel’s Land Capacity (under About Land > Object). So, if your Land Capacity is 500, then using these LSL functions you can return up to 500 linksets per hour
    • The throttle is there primarily to prevent a silent war between a rezzer and returner that could impact the back-end servers
    • Even with the throttling, it is anticipated that the functions should be able to return everything on your land within a region in one go, but not necessarily more than once an hour for large-scale returns.

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SL projects update week 24 (2): server news

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Update June 12th, 22:40 BST/14:40 SLT: The BlueSteel  / LeTigre deployment which includes these capabilities has been rolled back due to an issue whereby objects cannot be rezzed in BlueSteel / LeTigre parcels which disallow object entry (even if Create Objects is enabled) – BUG-2850. Both regions are now running the week 24 Magnum deployment.

Server Deploys for Week 24

As always, please refer to the week’s forum deployment thread for news, updates and feedback.

Second Life Server (Main) Channel

On Tuesday June 11th, the SLS channel received getting the server maintenance project that was on BlueSteel and LeTigre in week 23. This is intended to fix a simulator crash mode, and address a disconnection issue whereby multiple avatars would be disconnected from a simulator simultaneously, giving the impression the region had crashed when it had in fact not done so, and which also impacted LSL HTTP-in URLs.

Following the deployment, there was a report that the disconnection issue fix had not fully addressed the problem of LSL HTTP-in URLs being dropped, which was also raised at the Simulator User Group meeting on Tuesday June 11th. The matter has been acknowledged by Kelly and Maestro Linden, who are currently awaiting further information on the problem, although Simon Linden also commented, “I realize a bug Kelly and I were talking about earlier today is that issue, so someone is on it.”

Simulator UG meeting (stock)
Simulator UG meeting (stock)

BlueSteel and LeTigre Release Candidate Channels

On Wednesday June 12th BlueSteel and LeTigre should receive a new server maintenance project to fix a number of crash modes, addresses an issue with neighbouring region visibility, and adds new LSL pathfinding capabilities and object return capabilities:

  • The new pathfinding property CHARACTER_STAY_WITHIN_PARCEL, which I described in week 19. can be used with llCreateCharacter() and llUpdateCharacter(), and is intended to help with keeping characters within parcel boundaries
  • The new object return functions I reported on in week 23, namely llReturnObjectsByOwner and llReturnObjectsByID, are intended to provide an automated means of returning objects to their owners. For ease of reference, I’ve provided a more in-depth look at the capabilities in a separate report. Kelly Linden has also includes some guidelines on the functions in the deployment discussion thread.

Magnum Release Candidate Channel

On Wednesday June 12th Magnum should receive an update to the current interest list changes running on that channel, which addresses two bugs introduced by the project. Providing no further issues are found with these changes, it is likely (but subject to confirmation) that they will be promoted across the grid in week 25.

Commenting on the Magnum update at the Simulator User Group meeting on Tuesday June 11th, Andrew Linden said, “The Magnum channel has two bug fixes. The excessive AvatarAppearance packets [in which the simulator would send many unnecessary AvatarAppearance messages to the viewer], and my final fix for Meeroos; specifically, the problem where it looks like the Meeroo’s animation is busted when you turn around to look at it.”

Going on Andrew’s recent comments, this update is liable to mark the final aspect of server-side interest list work for the moment.

The Magnum deployment also includes a fix for the issue relating to viewing the text of large scripts I reported on in week 23, whereby the text of previously saved “large” scripts cannot be displayed in the script editor for users on slow connections (BUG-2694). This update had originally been targeted at the week 23 deployments, but failed to make the cut then due to some last-minute work being required.

Other News

Group Ban List

Baker Linden
Baker Linden

The group ban list functionality Baker Linden has been working towards in his desire to address JIRA SVC-8127 may soon start to get attention. Commenting at the Simulator User Group meeting on Tuesday June 11th, Baker said:

I am getting closer! I haven’t started work on it directly, but I’m wrapping up the last of the bug fixes related to Mute Lists. I’m writing some new unit tests to test my new functionality … There might be some viewer / other backed server work to do too, but hopefully everything will work so that part will be smooth. But after I finish up this last issue, I’ll be working on group ban stuff. I’ve learned a ton about Django and how to implement it, so I’m hopeful that it’ll be somewhat smooth of an implementation.

Django is a web framework the Lab uses for a number of in-world user-related services, and is the chosen mechanism by which to add the ban list functionality (its use doesn’t mean the group ban function will be web-enabled or anything like that). It is also a tool set unfamiliar to Baker, who only started finding his way around it a few weeks ago.

JSON Wiki Update

New LSL capabilities were recently introduced for the creation and parsing of JSON formatted strings which can used for transferring data between in-world objects and external resources / websites.  The LSL-JSON pages on the Second Life wiki have been evolving over the past few weeks, with the most recent updates occurring on June 10th. If you’re interested in these new capabilities, make sure you take a look at the wiki.

SL projects update week 23 (2): server, viewer, SSB/A, new LSL functions

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Server Deployments, Week 23

As usual, the latest updates, feedback and comments can be found on the deployment discussion thread. Anyone encountering a specific bug is asked to file a JIRA.

  • There was no SLS Main channel roll out this week
  • On Wednesday June 5th, the Release Candidate channel received the following packages:
    • BlueSteel and LeTigre were updated with a new server maintenance project.  This project addresses a disconnection issue and also fixes a crash mode – see my notes from week 22, and a fix for a crash mode
    • Magnum remained on the same interest list improvement project as originally deployed to LeTigre in week 21, and to Magnum and BlueSteel in week 22, with some updates. Two of these fix what Andrew Linden describes as “two rare crash modes”. The package should also include the same disconnection issue fix.

Interestingly, the “large” scripts issue I reported on in part 1 of this update was given as the reason why there was not Main channel deployment this week. As previously reported, the fix for this issue, which prevents the text of previously saved scripts from being displayed in the script editor for users on slow connections, failed to make the cut for the week 23 deployments.

There are continuing reports of “invisible avatars” on Magnum regions. This issues was first reported following the week 22 deployments, and described as “on an in-region teleport when landing all surrounding avatars de-rezz and cannot be seen until the person re-logs. Everything else appears normally.” The problem appears to be random in nature, and was also noticed at one club which enjoys a high level of attendance. and which still appears to be encountering the same issue. During the Beta Server meeting on Thursday June 6th, this issue was discussed, and appeared to be most strongly linked to v1-based viewers.

SL Viewer News

The next release of the materials beta viewer arrived on Wednesday June 5th (3.6.0.276961 with the release notes here), and as I indicated in part one of this report, sees the beta once more installed into the “correct” folder (SecondLifeBetaViewer). This means the initial beta release needs to be uninstalled separately, as the updated version obviously won’t over-write it.

The materials project beta viewer had its first update on June 5th, with the release of 3.6.0.274961
The materials project beta viewer had its first update on June 5th, with the release of 3.6.0.276961

In terms of beta releases in the future, it’s worthwhile again pointing-out that once the new viewer release process comes into effect, beta viewers will be installed into folders identified by their project name (e.g. something akin to “SecondLifeBetaMaterials”). Viewers should be fairly well self-contained (although they may still share the same default settings location, as that remains to be seen once things start rolling), so the uninstalling of individual beta versions (or RC versions) shouldn’t be a problem once they reach release status.

Work continues in preparing the new viewer release process for … release (or implementation). It’s still unclear whether it will arrive before or after materials moves to the release viewer. As reported in week 22, the current pipeline of releases we should be seeing as the new release process rolls forward includes:

  • A collection of open-source contributions to the viewer which is hoped will appear as a release candidate viewer pretty quickly
  • A “pretty substantial batch” of maintenance fixes for the viewer
  • Vivox updates, which Oz described as, “Finally getting attention again, and will probably be in a release candidate version ‘real soon’ now”
  • An Experience Tools viewer which is also expected to appear “real soon”
  • An interest list update viewer, which is believed to be getting closer to being stable

Server-side Baking / Appearance

Investigations have been continuing into the SUN-74 issue which affects non-SSB/A updated viewers (notably Phoenix), with Nyx Linden commenting at the Server Beta meeting that, “Thanks to the support from the phoenix/firestorm team, we’ve been able to identify the cause of that issue. We’re looking into what options are available to us. [It]  took some backflips to get it in a debugging environment, but managed to hunt it down – a combination of factors from not having the last 4 years of appearance fixes :)”

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SL projects update week 20 (2): materials beta, SSB/A

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Server Deployments – Week 20

As always, please refer to the release forum  thread on the weekly deployments for the latest updates and discussions.

Second Life Server (Main channel)

On Tuesday May 14th, the Main channel received the Experience Keys project. This means the project is now available across the grid, although there are no visible changes to be seen at this point. Release notes.

Release Candidate (RC) Channels – JSON Capabilities

On Wednesday May 15th, all three RC channels received a new server maintenance project (release notes (Bluesteel)).  The project is designed to fix two crash modes and two bugs, and introduce new LSL support creating and parsing of JSON-formatted strings – see part 1 of this week 20 report.

Commenting on the JSON capabilities at the Server Beta meeting on Thursday May 16th, Maestro Linden said, “There are some issues with this week’s Json functions… the keys in key-value pairs are not quoted, but should be and right now you’ll run into problems when you add stings which contain escaped quotes.”

In addition, a further confirmed bug has been found in the code on the three RC channels (BUG-2601), described by Lucia Nightfire as:

Seems that the release on the RC channels has brought about an annoying bug that affects control event triggering in attachment’s child prims after changing regions.

There are two different effects depending how you enter a version 13.05.14.275813 RC region.

After going into an RC region while using any controls, those controls will lock under execution and remain locked until you reset the script or the control perms or detach the object.

After going into an RC region without using controls like with a teleport, the control event will not trigger when attempting to use any controls until you re-request/re-grant control perms or go back to a main channel region.

Should this problem be encountered, returning to any Main channel region should restore the broken functionality.

Because of both of these issues, it is believed the code currently on the three RC channels will remain on them for a further week while fixes are developed and implemented.

SL Viewer Updates

Beta Viewer

The current SL beta viewer code, which contains the FMOD Ex updates is expected to be merged with viewer release shortly, prior to going to testing. Depending on the results of the testing, an updated SL release viewer should appear early in week 21.

Viewer Release Process

Because the version upgrading changes will move to the viewer release channel with the move of the current beta viewer, the viewer beta repository will stop being used, and viewer releases will start switching over to the new release process. As a part of this, two new wiki pages will be appearing in the next future (probably in week 22).

The first of these will be a revamped Alternate Viewers page on the wiki, which will list all the available LL project viewers and beta viewers and release candidates which are available, as well as the current viewer release, all of which will have download links and links to their respective release notes.

The second wiki page will have the same information together with pointers to which repository used to build the viewer, which changesets were used to build a viewer, and whether or not the repository is public.

The plan remains that under the new release process, all beta and release candidates will have public repositories, while project viewers many not initially have public repositories, but will have as they reach the later stages of their development.

Cocoa Project

The Cocoa project for Mac versions of the viewer has been largely stalled as a result of redeploying TPV assistance from that project to the materials project. It is anticipated that once materials moves to a beta viewer status, the emphasis will shift back on to the Cocoa viewer work

Materials Processing

Providing all goes according to plan, the Materials Processing code should move to a beta  status within its own repository and hopefully also make an appearance in week 21. Commenting on this, Oz Linden said at the TPV Developer meeting o Friday May 17th, “It’s still not 100% there; there’s still a few known bugs, but we think we’ve got all the serious ones and so we’re going to put it out where people can play with it.”

Once the materials viewer does reach beta, the anticipation is that it will remain there for “a little while” and the it will not be a one-spin beta release prior to moving on.

Detail on the hint of a Katana created entirely using the new materials capability. The sword is made by June Dion and has an LI of 7
Materials used to create details on the hilt of a Katana created by June Dion – soon to be visible in the Materials Processing beta viewer

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